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Can You Even Define The Stupidity Of Sally Kern?  

MissAnnThrope 63F
7711 posts
7/11/2009 9:28 pm

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Can You Even Define The Stupidity Of Sally Kern?

Those of you with long memories and who don't live in Oklahoma may remember me talking about Sally "the cuntscab" Kern in this post, about a year ago. Well, she's at it again.

It would seem that the current recession has nothing to do with the fact that for the last 20 or 25 years this country has focused on the financial sector instead of manufacturing. Nope. Nothing to do with the decline of the gross national product. Nothing to do with hedge funds manipulating prices. Nothing to do with overinflated stock and housing prices. Nothing to do with the Graham-Leach-Bliley Bill either. Nope. In spite of economists warning about this for more years than I care to remember, none of this has anything to do with the current economic crisis. At least, not in the mind of Sally Kern.

Why is this country is such bad shape? Because of our morals. According to Sally Kern, that is.

For those who don't know, Sally Kern is a Representative in the State House, from District 84. That is the Oklahoma City area and well, I'm glad she represents them, because if you ask around, she doesn't represent Tulsans. She's also gotten into trouble a few times for trying to sneak her loaded .380 semiautomatic handgun into the State Capitol.

She is one of those Republicans who believes GOP means "God's Own Party." No one has corrected her. For those who have forgotten, it actually means, "Grand Old Party." It is also a dying elephant, everywhere but Oklahoma.

She is a religious bigot, she is on record as calling any religion other than Baptist as "insignificant." She screams about the homosexual agenda, ignoring the fact her who fled the state is gay himself. Oh, he claims he has gone for the cure, which is why he was a regular in Oklahoma gay bars after taking the cure. Oklahoma is like one small town. People will see you and talk. Which is probably why he fled to Iowa.

Think I'm kidding? She has refused to apologize for this quote and says she stands by every word: "Studies show that no society that has totally embraced homosexuality has lasted more than, you know, a few decades. So it's the death knell of this country. I honestly think it's the biggest threat our nation has, even more so than terrorism or Islam – which I think is a big threat, okay? Cause what's happening now is they are going after, in schools, two-year olds...And this stuff is deadly, and it's spreading, and it will destroy our young people, it will destroy this nation."

I want to know what societies those were, I can't think of one society that crumbled for embracing homosexuality. And aren't these the arguments that were used in the American South when interracial marriage was illegal, just a few short decades ago?

But you know, as a good Southern Baptist woman, married to the pastor of the Olivet Baptist Church in Oklahoma City, I suppose she feels she has better morals than the rest of us. Of course, the Southern Baptist Convention is becoming more hardcore right by the day and just last month kicked out a church in Texas, for refusing to take a formal congregational action to condemn homosexuality, something that the SBC requires of no other church. Several members of the church are openly gay and the church itself said, the SBC doesn't make sure adulterers are kicked out, so why should homosexuals be different?

So, I guess to cover her ass and that of her husband's church, Kern came up with a publicity stunt that is pissing off a good number of people in Oklahoma.

Last week, just in time for the Fourth of July recess, Mrs. Kern held a ceremony on the State House steps, to try to bring her brand of religious bigotry to Oklahoma. She is trying to get all Oklahomans to sign something called, "Oklahoma Citizen’s Proclamation for Morality". In it, she blames homosexuality, pornography and divorce for the current economic crisis.

No, really, she does. She also blames it on President Obama not upholding the National Day of Prayer and for declaring June GLBT Pride Month. Because like, the nation was NOT in economic crisis before we elected a *gasp* Democrat. A Democrat who hasn't even picked an official church in D.C. yet! OMG, NO!!!!!!!!!!! We might actually have a secular president! Get out the tar and feathers!

This woman is a complete fucking batshit crazy cuntscab imbecile. She is a disgrace to Oklahoma. Those of you who read this here and think she's right are hypocrites. Because if she had her way, this site would be shut down before you could blink.

God is punishing America economically according to this thing I have trouble calling a woman. Of course, she doesn't seem to realize the entire world, except for those heathen Islamic oil producing nations are going through the same thing. Perhaps she should look at the economic status of the world and start considering Allah and the word of his prophet Muhammad, (peace be upon him,) as the followers of Islam seem to have been blessed with riches from the ground. Well, except for Iraq, which had a secular government before we invaded. But see? They didn't have a theocracy and Allah punished them! Just like a loving Jesus is punishing the United States!

I so wish I was making up this woman. But this was signed. It starts with a bunch of quotes from the Founding Fathers, most of whom were Deists and not Christians. It also takes a few out of context and then throws in a few from Noah Webster, who it would seem, Kern doesn't realize wasn't a Founding Father, or even a politician.

But this is the text that follows the quotes...

WHEREAS, the people of Oklahoma have a strong tradition of reliance upon the Creator of the Universe; and

WHEREAS, we believe our economic woes are consequences of our greater national moral crisis; and

WHEREAS, this nation has become a world leader in promoting abortion, pornography, same sex marriage, sex trafficking, divorce, illegitimate births, abuse, and many other forms of debauchery; and

WHEREAS, alarmed that the Government of the United States of America is forsaking the rich Christian heritage upon which this nation was built; and

WHEREAS, grieved that the Office of the president of these United States has refused to uphold the long held tradition of past presidents in giving recognition to our National Day of
Prayer; and

WHEREAS, deeply disturbed that the Office of the president of these United States disregards the biblical admonitions to live clean and pure lives by proclaiming an entire month to an immoral behavior;

NOW THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED that we the undersigned elected officials of the people of Oklahoma, religious leaders and citizens of the State of Oklahoma, appealing to the Supreme Judge of the world, solemnly declare that the HOPE of the great State of Oklahoma and of these United States, rests upon the Principles of Religion and Morality as put forth in the HOLY BIBLE; and

BE IT RESOLVED that we, the undersigned, believers in the One True God and His only , call upon all to join with us in recognizing that "Blessed is the Nation whose God is the
Lord," and humbly implore all who love Truth and Virtue to live above reproach in the sight of God and man with a firm reliance on the leadership and protection of Almighty God; and

BE IT RESOLVED that we, the undersigned, humbly call upon Holy God, our Creator, Sustainer, and Redeemer, to have mercy on this nation, to stay His hand of judgment, and grant a national awakening of righteousness and Christian renewal as we repent of our great sin.

Signed on the second day of July in the year of our Lord Christ Two Thousand and Nine.


I so want to know what politicians signed this. They should NOT be allowed back into office. Perhaps this thing that calls herself a woman should read the Constitution of the United States. Something about Article Six of the Constitution? I seem to remember something in there about religion and elected officials. Oh yeah. It says no religious test can be used to keep people out of office, or used to put them in office. In other words, it says no theocracy. And then the first amendment says, what is it? "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof." Yeah, that's what it says. And federal law supersedes state law. So suck it, you ugly prune faced hag.

Kern also seems to forget that Oklahoma is number one in this country. Number one for out of wedlock teenage births. Number one for trafficking of kidnapped and coerced minors for truck stop . According to the news, Oklahoma has a major problem with 12 and 13 year old girls being forced into at truck stops. But instead of blaming the traffickers, or even raiding these places, let's just fuck the little girls and blame them for having vaginas.

I don't know why she's so upset about divorce. After all, Oklahoma is only number three as far as divorces per 1000 go. Right behind Nevada and Arkansas. Oklahomans in 2005 (the last year the data is available for,) divorced at the rate of 5.6 couples per 1000. But you know, those liberal states of NY and NJ with their 2.8 and 2.9 per 1000 are so very debauched. And Washington D.C., which God is going to smite, the rate is 2.0 per 1000, the lowest in the nation. The evil and corrupt land of Ted Kennedy, a.k.a. Massachusetts, is number 2 at couples staying together, with only 2.2 divorces per 1000. Ah, you say, but I've mentioned states with high Catholic populations. But according to Baptists, Catholics are all Satanists. So does this mean Satan keeps couples from divorcing and making Jesus weep?

Now, the Bible not only condones abuse, but says disobedient should be stoned to death by their parents. While I can't find state to state data on abuse, I did find that white parents are more likely to kill their before anyone notices anything was wrong.

But Kern is so misguided. She should work on figuring out why these things are so high in her own state and so low in those liberal godless states. She needs to stop using god as a crutch, as an excuse and start to own what is wrong at home. Learn to love her gay/non-gay . Learn a bit of tolerance. Realize that we do NOT live in a theocracy and the authors of the Constitution stuck something in about how we are never to be a theocracy. But then again, when was the last time a Republican had any respect for the Constitution?

Sally Kern, it's too bad you wouldn't be caught dead at this site. But I'm sure your husband is one of those many married, Christian men who don't get it at home and are here. So Rev. Kern, if you're reading, do us all a favor. Tell your fucking stupid as shit wife to stop blaming God for everything. To own the responsibility of what turning a blind eye does in her own state. Worry about the truck stop who are forced into by adults. Worry about racial intolerance in this state, instead of worrying that we have a President who is going to steal her purse because he's the wrong color. Stop worrying about homosexual art and antique dealers who could probably buy and sell her, as homosexual couples tend to have more disposable income than straight couples.

Inform her that pornography is a multi-billion dollar industry and drives the economy. As do weddings. A gay wedding means the baker works, the florist works, the flower growers work, Men's Warehouse gets to sell another pair of tuxedos, waiters and waitresses get to work, caterers get business, the hall that is rented doesn't have to rent itself out to a Klan meeting that night, etc. These things are GOOD for the economy, not bad.

You can't be against abortion and tell girls not to have babies out of wedlock either. It is one or the other. Abortion can actually be good for the girl, as she then gets to finish high school, go to college, get a degree and get a job that isn't saying, "do you want fries with that?" Which is what must unwed teenage mothers are doing in this fine state.

And keep in mind, while all those states that have much lower divorce, much lower teenage birth rates, much lower trafficking etc. aren't doing as well as this state economically. They keep reminding us on the news that housing prices are rising in Tulsa and staying stable in the rest of the state. People are moving here for jobs. We have one of the lowest unemployment rates in the country. Yet we have the most behavior that is against god, including Tulsa having one of the highest per capita gay populations. According to some sources, we have the highest per 1000 of population gay populations in the country. So you are truly cutting your own throat.

Please, OKC residents. Get rid of this insane woman. Vote for her opponent in the primaries. Vote Democratic for once. It won't send you to hell and it won't change much of anything in the state.

And for the rest of you, especially if you're in Oklahoma, look up the petition to impeach this woman for trying to turn the state into a theocracy. You can find it with that popular search engine. This woman has to go. Hey, she was born in Arkansas. Can we send her back there?


rm_neveragain80 55F
1407 posts
7/12/2009 12:58 am

I stopped being surprised by some of the politicians in this state a long time ago....about the time Inhofe was re-elected as a US Senator. Kern, Sullivan, Inhofe, Shurden, Coburn, et al will be the end of us. It's bad enough we elected a Governor who's nickname around the Capitol is "'nilla puddin'"....now we have to deal with hypocritical nutjobs desperate for camera time.

I doubt Arkansas wants her back, but call Mike Huckabee and ask, ok?


mediumWalter 47M
4236 posts
7/13/2009 2:32 pm

She is certainly horrific from what you've described. She needs to look at the Treaty of Tripoli as well as the Bill of Rights.

The theocratic thugs are always going on about how this nation
was founded on Christian principles. It wasn't, but even if it was, I would challenge them to name one Christian principle that this nation was founded on that is unique or original to Christianity.
How is it that the least original, most derivative religion has the
most obnoxious adherents (I suppose that question kind of answers itself).

As for same-sex marriage, Baehr vs. Miike should have set a national precedent--enough of this State's rights bullshit trampling individual rights.

And as for abortion--I'll quote Curtis White on this:

"Why it is exactly that God prefers the deaths by starvation of living children to the abortion of unborn children is not explained. Thirty-five thousand children starve to death everyday in the most overpopulated and impoverished countries of the world. Meanwhile the religious right maintains its political alliance with a global capitalism determined to ensure that poor countries and their children stay poor. They do it the old-fashioned way: they exploit them."


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absolutelynormal 63F
6558 posts
7/13/2009 10:53 pm

Spewing hate in the name of God... makes sense to me. No, not really. To me, people who shout and point the other way so loudly that they can be heard in one than more state are the ones who ARE hiding something.


rm_angelsquared 64M/64F
52 posts
7/14/2009 6:25 am

Great post, showing intelligence and passion.

Any chance that you can edit it and post it to Newsweek or Time or even the Tulsa World? Don't want to assume that you haven't already . . .


papyrina 58F
21123 posts
7/14/2009 1:57 pm

How the hell do people vote for folk like her
and even worse how many sad fucs will sign that piece of filth


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GregorioAllegri 48M
14 posts
7/14/2009 8:50 pm

Yes, the religious bigots are on the rise.

As the end of the world is apparently about to occur, we can expect more of them to appear.


FATboyROY1 57M

7/15/2009 7:21 pm

Come on back to the Lower-Midwest Room soon hun. You got a spanking coming for this post. Sally Kern is good people even if she does not fit your liberal socialist ideas. She is decent and God fearing and she has zero tolerance for deviants. More power to her. We should have more like her in government and that goes double for Washington.


haversack_smith 47M
6189 posts
7/17/2009 2:12 pm

Eeek. People like this scare me. I'm just glad we don't have so many of them in politics over here... British politicians scare me for other reasons entirely!

I can't think of one society that crumbled for embracing homosexuality.

Well, Sodom and Gomorrah, if you take the view that those bible stories are literally true and that homosexuality is the reason that God decided to nuke them. Which isn't the reason the Bible gives, but that doesn't tend to stop people pretending it is...

LOL. According to Wikipedia: "A rabbinic tradition, described in the Mishnah, postulates that the sin of Sodom was related to property: Sodomites believed that 'what is mine is mine, and what is yours is yours'" So basically, God nuked Sodom for being capitalist.


MissAnnThrope 63F
11481 posts
7/20/2009 5:04 pm

    Quoting  :

They're trying. It's only places like Oklahoma where they have can even attempt it. Think about what would happen if someone tried this in the Northeast. They'd be resigning a week later.


MissAnnThrope 63F
11481 posts
7/20/2009 5:09 pm

    Quoting rm_neveragain80:
    I stopped being surprised by some of the politicians in this state a long time ago....about the time Inhofe was re-elected as a US Senator. Kern, Sullivan, Inhofe, Shurden, Coburn, et al will be the end of us. It's bad enough we elected a Governor who's nickname around the Capitol is "'nilla puddin'"....now we have to deal with hypocritical nutjobs desperate for camera time.

    I doubt Arkansas wants her back, but call Mike Huckabee and ask, ok?
And have you noticed, "nilla puddin" doesn't exactly have his vetoes honored?

Think Sullivan might actually suffer some regret and start thinking like a real human being now that he's "cured" of his drinking problem? Yeah, nor do I.

Inhofe and Coburn are just imbeciles. Have you seen any of the Sotomayor hearings? Inhofe wouldn't even meet with her, as he told her straight out he refuses to vote for her. Does he not realize that most of the Mexicans left in the state are legal and a good number of them are voters?

I know nothing about Sherden, but now I have to look him up.

You know, Huckabee might love her politics. He's one of those politics for God people too. Perhaps she can be his running mate if he gets the nomination of the dying party in 2012.


MissAnnThrope 63F
11481 posts
7/20/2009 5:12 pm

    Quoting honestjohn4u:
    there are liars, there are damn liars, and then there are statistics. There seems to be something wrong with your statistics, my reading indicates approximately half of all marriages end in divorce. If the divorce rate is 5.6 couples ( 11.2 persons ) per thousand per year it would take close to 250 years for half of those thousand couples to divorce. I think your divorce rate is significantly higher or that per thousand is really per 100.
    I hate to be disparaging but out here in the west we have come up with a one word definition that describes Sally Kern and all those like her, we call them Okies. No offense intended.
I was on a rant and missed sticking in that is per 1000 people. Not 1000 married couples.

No offense taken. I'm not an Okie. I'm a Damn Yankee.


MissAnnThrope 63F
11481 posts
7/20/2009 5:18 pm

    Quoting  :

Gee, where did you get the idea I don't like Sally Kern? As much as I wish her out of the State House, she's like our very own Katherine Harris and Rick Santorum, rolled into one.

You know very well it is not the morality of CEOs that run banks and hedge funds into the ground that caused this crisis. They are all good, married men! Not a homosexual or divorce among them!

It is biblical morality that counts! Not business morality! These people long for the world of "Atlas Shrugged" without looking at how such practices end up screwing them in the end. But Randian philosophy as practiced by good, Christian men has nothing to do with this economic crisis! It is all about sex! Geez, Lofty, you're getting senile, old man.

BTW, economists in Iowa are saying with gay marriage legal there, they can probably look forward to $53 Million a year in revenue just from those weddings.


MissAnnThrope 63F
11481 posts
7/20/2009 5:25 pm

    Quoting mediumWalter:
    She is certainly horrific from what you've described. She needs to look at the Treaty of Tripoli as well as the Bill of Rights.

    The theocratic thugs are always going on about how this nation
    was founded on Christian principles. It wasn't, but even if it was, I would challenge them to name one Christian principle that this nation was founded on that is unique or original to Christianity.
    How is it that the least original, most derivative religion has the
    most obnoxious adherents (I suppose that question kind of answers itself).

    As for same-sex marriage, Baehr vs. Miike should have set a national precedent--enough of this State's rights bullshit trampling individual rights.

    And as for abortion--I'll quote Curtis White on this:

    "Why it is exactly that God prefers the deaths by starvation of living children to the abortion of unborn children is not explained. Thirty-five thousand children starve to death everyday in the most overpopulated and impoverished countries of the world. Meanwhile the religious right maintains its political alliance with a global capitalism determined to ensure that poor countries and their children stay poor. They do it the old-fashioned way: they exploit them."

You know, even though Adams signed the Treaty of Tripoli, he was the most religious of the Founding Fathers. Point out to the Crispy Christians with Jesus Fried Brains that he was a Unitarian and they go fucking insane. Because like, Unitarians aren't good Baptist or Puritan men. Not to mention, the Bill of Rights only has one good amendment. The second amendment. In Oklahoma, that is about the only one they don't want to throw out. I'm waiting for her to start a drive to have Oklahoma secede from the Union and become a sovereign nation.

Now, don't you all get it? The unborn fetus MUST be protected at all costs. Screw it once it's born. If it has a life of incredible hardship, it is because that child is a martyr and God will reward that child well when it is beaten to death or dies of neglect. All those starving babies in Africa and parts of Asia? Well, we all know Jesus was white, even if Luke said otherwise and they're just the wrong color. Trust me when I say there are plenty of people who still believe black people are either subhuman or are bearing the mark of Cain. And most of them are in Oklahoma.


MissAnnThrope 63F
11481 posts
7/20/2009 5:28 pm

    Quoting absolutelynormal:
    Spewing hate in the name of God... makes sense to me. No, not really. To me, people who shout and point the other way so loudly that they can be heard in one than more state are the ones who ARE hiding something.
They will use all the battles in the Old Testament for proof that God wants to kill the infidels. Also the fact that somewhere in the New Testament, Jesus told the disciples to carry swords. The medical studies showing those who are sexually repressed tend towards violence be damned. It's biblical to abstain from sexual release and just go around killing.


MissAnnThrope 63F
11481 posts
7/20/2009 5:29 pm

    Quoting rm_angelsquared:
    Great post, showing intelligence and passion.

    Any chance that you can edit it and post it to Newsweek or Time or even the Tulsa World? Don't want to assume that you haven't already . . .
You mean cut out the bad words and send it on as an opinion piece? I'm sure I haven't said anything that the other readers of Tulsa World haven't already said.


MissAnnThrope 63F
11481 posts
7/20/2009 5:32 pm

    Quoting papyrina:
    How the hell do people vote for folk like her
    and even worse how many sad fucs will sign that piece of filth
This is Oklahoma, where they believe in guns and Jesus. The fundamentalist, right wing, Southern Baptist Convention Jesus. Who hates gay people and while pretending to hate adulterers, will turn a blind eye to men who cheat. But not the women.


MissAnnThrope 63F
11481 posts
7/20/2009 5:35 pm

    Quoting GregorioAllegri:
    Yes, the religious bigots are on the rise.

    As the end of the world is apparently about to occur, we can expect more of them to appear.
Um, yeah. In spite of the fact that people have believed they were in the "end times" since the start of written history.


MissAnnThrope 63F
11481 posts
7/20/2009 5:37 pm

    Quoting FATboyROY1:
    Come on back to the Lower-Midwest Room soon hun. You got a spanking coming for this post. Sally Kern is good people even if she does not fit your liberal socialist ideas. She is decent and God fearing and she has zero tolerance for deviants. More power to her. We should have more like her in government and that goes double for Washington.
Hey Roy? Go fuck yourself. Better yet, if you want to live in a theocracy, go try Saudi Arabia or Iran for a few months and let me know how that works out for you. Sharia law and Christian law are the same thing, just with different names for god.


MissAnnThrope 63F
11481 posts
7/20/2009 5:40 pm

    Quoting haversack_smith:
    Eeek. People like this scare me. I'm just glad we don't have so many of them in politics over here... British politicians scare me for other reasons entirely!

    I can't think of one society that crumbled for embracing homosexuality.

    Well, Sodom and Gomorrah, if you take the view that those bible stories are literally true and that homosexuality is the reason that God decided to nuke them. Which isn't the reason the Bible gives, but that doesn't tend to stop people pretending it is...

    LOL. According to Wikipedia: "A rabbinic tradition, described in the Mishnah, postulates that the sin of Sodom was related to property: Sodomites believed that 'what is mine is mine, and what is yours is yours'" So basically, God nuked Sodom for being capitalist.
The crimes of Sodom and Gomorrah did indeed have to do with the population being inhospitable, especially when it came to strangers. Lot offered his daughters up for . But crazy Christians have decided it had to do with sex. It makes no sense to me.


FATboyROY1 57M

7/22/2009 8:11 pm

    Quoting MissAnnThrope:
    Hey Roy? Go fuck yourself. Better yet, if you want to live in a theocracy, go try Saudi Arabia or Iran for a few months and let me know how that works out for you. Sharia law and Christian law are the same thing, just with different names for god.
Hold up there baby. I am no theocrat and if I could fuck myself would I be so interested in you


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